Originally by: Raid'En

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Edited by: Raid''En on 18/02/2011 02:30:03

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we are now ready to start a conversation with you on the very concrete, deliverable features being worked on. And itÆs not a barely concealed retelling of the Pocahontas story...

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i only see a pocahontas story here.
we were already talking WIS when i joined the game 4 years ago.. and now, after all this time, we only have that ?
the dev blog was fun to read, sure the images are nice but... i didn't saw any content.

seriously what do we will get from this blog ?
a a nice room where you can move, see your ship outside, and activate manually the items of our normal UI.

people will play a bit on the 1st days, but after... no one will care until real content is here.
and for your tests for the next level i doubt it would be much usefull if it's what happen.

so i hope you'll add a little something at least.
give use minigames for example, some basic things that exist by dozen on the net, but that if we can have on eve, we will play on eve.

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Originally by: Lukas Rox

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1. CQ MUST be optional. There is no way a computer can load more data in the same time (environment + avatar + ship) against the current station UI (ship + environment).

2. Incarna mode MUST allow use of the old interface (chats, charts, and tables)

Sandbox is about a choice - if you dont give players choice, you are making a sandbox with concrete instead of sand.

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Originally by: Vheras

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Originally by: GalacticRonin

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Where is Incarna, CCP? I really hate to add to the Forum Whine Index, as it's something I don't make a habit of doing, but I think alot of us have been looking forward to this one and are eager to try it out on Sisi. While I understand there's a great deal of technical work that has to go into something as radically different as Incarna, was the theme for this fanfest kickoff not "Delivery"? I think many of us just want to see something, get a taste for what it's going to be and experience it firsthand.

Please, just get it out there.

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Yeah what happened to Captain's Quarters being on SiSi??

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Originally by: Scitor Nantom

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The term "Captain's Quarters" is now slowly turning into a concept in my mind of a Captain with the name "Quarters".

Captain Quarters! A New Eden super hero! His super power? Providing couches and interface to every pod pilot in New Eden.
Soooo... Super provisional powers of couches and interfaces... ACTIVATE!

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Originally by: Ming Sying

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Edited by: Ming Sying on 15/04/2011 12:58:21
I don't envision an entirely new game at all from this, but more as an additional social experience for people playing the game.

Some features I will be expecting are:

• Strategy Room, alliance/corp meeting place where officers can upload powerpoint presentations, open the starmap and show pre-flight routes, videos, and audio files or just use a mic.


• Station social area, like a bar or game lounge with multiplayer games for people to play since the rest of EvE is such a terrible game.


• Dozens of other ways to implement a feature without dedicating the full resources required of an entirely new game.

I will say that CCP is not the blackhole company its players make it out to be. They could have charged players $50 for this expansion. If that was the case I could understand all the harsh criticism.

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Originally by: Ming Sying

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Edited by: Ming Sying on 18/04/2011 15:16:16
Roleplay is overrated. I'm just looking for something to do to kill time because I always find myself sitting in a station. Game immersion does help the "feel" of the game though, and probably draws in more new players for me to exploit and kill.

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Originally by: Gryganne

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Edited by: Gryganne on 21/04/2011 15:48:43

Originally by: Scitor Nantom

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Edited by: Scitor Nantom on 19/04/2011 22:35:26
Game immersion is a result of great execution of representational storyline. Namely, does what you see and hear portray the story and setting well and in a way that captures the imagination?

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That's too simplistic. A game can have no main storyline at all and still be incredibly immersive. The immersion factor is not something that's easy to pin down. Not only can it work differently for different people but there is no one aspect of a game that is guaranteed to bring it about for every game. It can, as you said, have to do with the storyline; it can have to do with the overall complexity and interest of the environment; it can have to do with graphics; or it can have to do with any number of other things. Important, however, is that no individual factor that contributes to immersion need be present in a given game for someone to get immersed. Some games might rely on graphics to draw players into the world but neglect the backstory, but a text-based game with no graphics at all can still be immersive.

In any case, story was never EvE's strong suit. I've never known anyone who got terribly interested in the lore of New Eden.

I would also say that immersion is seriously lacking in general in this game, as it's missing too many critical things. One of those is a story that draws people in, but I think a bigger problem is that people tend to interact less with other players here than in other games. I also think that this is in part because we do not play as avatars and do not interact with other players as avatars. The whole thing has a very impersonal and distant-from-humanity feel. Incarna, I hope, will make moves to fix this, but it will only help if stations are non instanced. Incarna is only a worthwhile endeavor if players can actually interact in public areas of the station. If it's just an instanced captain's quarter, even if we can invite other people to visit us, I don't see that as adding a great deal of interest to the game or doing anything very revolutionary.

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Originally by: Silinde Telemnar

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Will there be a way to access your ships cargo from the CQ? the present way to do it is to cumbersome.

I don't like having to click the ships button and then doubleclicking the ship you want.

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